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	<title>Comments on: WoW and Eve Online, where I stand.</title>
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		<title>By: alaphforce</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2641</link>
		<dc:creator>alaphforce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I for one completely stoped playing CoH in order to pick up a third account in EvE. Haven&#039;t been tempted by WoW at all. I admit EvE is sllllooooowwwww and dull most of the time. However if you find a good group of guys and have a goal to work towards it can be a hell of alot of fun. 
I started my own corporation and have been spending time getting to know the rest of the small corps in my region and the interaction is a hoot. The planning and acting and swaying with change is great. And I love the fact that EvE is adaptable to ones life style. Like Ethic says the offline skill training is great. I can leave EvE alone for a week or two with no guilt of wasting time. I&#039;m a very casual, lighthearted person and I just love EvEs ability to cater to me.

Anyway the real reason I&#039;m here......to beg
I WANT YOUR ISK lol
seriously I&#039;ll take any amount, the larger the better, and gear too, well anything actually. 

lol
Safe journies space fans. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I for one completely stoped playing CoH in order to pick up a third account in EvE. Haven&#8217;t been tempted by WoW at all. I admit EvE is sllllooooowwwww and dull most of the time. However if you find a good group of guys and have a goal to work towards it can be a hell of alot of fun.<br />
I started my own corporation and have been spending time getting to know the rest of the small corps in my region and the interaction is a hoot. The planning and acting and swaying with change is great. And I love the fact that EvE is adaptable to ones life style. Like Ethic says the offline skill training is great. I can leave EvE alone for a week or two with no guilt of wasting time. I&#8217;m a very casual, lighthearted person and I just love EvEs ability to cater to me.</p>
<p>Anyway the real reason I&#8217;m here&#8230;&#8230;to beg<br />
I WANT YOUR ISK lol<br />
seriously I&#8217;ll take any amount, the larger the better, and gear too, well anything actually. </p>
<p>lol<br />
Safe journies space fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Zxyrox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zxyrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, 200m in an hour?!?!?! i dont have tech2 bpos yet...., ill send you some after i buy my intercepter this weekend. looking around 30-50mill for ya.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, 200m in an hour?!?!?! i dont have tech2 bpos yet&#8230;., ill send you some after i buy my intercepter this weekend. looking around 30-50mill for ya..</p>
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		<title>By: Ethic</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please send 200 million. No? 150m. No? 100m? 75? 50? 25? I don&#039;t know what you want to get rid of. You may not leave or you may leave and come back looking to spend. Whatever you care to send will help. I&#039;m kind of stuck now and have no real good way to make ISK. Going to have to start shooting stuff again soon. I&#039;ll take it all or some sum less. Or keep it all. No matter. Just hearing you talk about 200 million like you can make that in an hour makes me wonder what I&#039;m doing so wrong, hehe. Just know this, 200 million ISK is a LOT of money to me. I&#039;ve never had more than 30 million but that was thanks to another generous soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please send 200 million. No? 150m. No? 100m? 75? 50? 25? I don&#8217;t know what you want to get rid of. You may not leave or you may leave and come back looking to spend. Whatever you care to send will help. I&#8217;m kind of stuck now and have no real good way to make ISK. Going to have to start shooting stuff again soon. I&#8217;ll take it all or some sum less. Or keep it all. No matter. Just hearing you talk about 200 million like you can make that in an hour makes me wonder what I&#8217;m doing so wrong, hehe. Just know this, 200 million ISK is a LOT of money to me. I&#8217;ve never had more than 30 million but that was thanks to another generous soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Zxyrox</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>Zxyrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;some of that 200 million&quot; :P thats anywhere from .01-200m (cant read minds!) and i dont expect to be paid back, i just figure until i find out what i want to do ill play santa claus for those without the time to spend hours npc hunting in 0.0, doing missions, or mining. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;some of that 200 million&#8221; :P thats anywhere from .01-200m (cant read minds!) and i dont expect to be paid back, i just figure until i find out what i want to do ill play santa claus for those without the time to spend hours npc hunting in 0.0, doing missions, or mining. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ethic</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 14:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Z: &quot;all you need to do is ask and ill toss some isk your way&quot;

E: &quot;feel free to toss some of that 200 million my way&quot; ;-)

Disclaimer: ISK transfers to Ethic are risky! He doesn&#039;t provide fixed returns and past performance doesn&#039;t guarantee future results. All ISK transfers to Ethic entail the almost guaranteed risk of great and sudden financial loss. Returns vary and you may have a gain or more likely a loss if you ask for it back. No assurance is given that anything you give Ethic will ever be returned. He is skilled at spending ISK, but not so much making it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z: &#8220;all you need to do is ask and ill toss some isk your way&#8221;</p>
<p>E: &#8220;feel free to toss some of that 200 million my way&#8221; ;-)</p>
<p>Disclaimer: ISK transfers to Ethic are risky! He doesn&#8217;t provide fixed returns and past performance doesn&#8217;t guarantee future results. All ISK transfers to Ethic entail the almost guaranteed risk of great and sudden financial loss. Returns vary and you may have a gain or more likely a loss if you ask for it back. No assurance is given that anything you give Ethic will ever be returned. He is skilled at spending ISK, but not so much making it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zxyrox</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>Zxyrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 05:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For one, ill point out that i did infact know that they were adding such ships, however, ill also add that many gaming companies want things in thier games that get lost in the rush of new content or demand for different things, for all of anyones knowledge, these ships could have been put back on the shelf for other ideas.

Ill add in that, being level 60, or being high level doesnt make the game any more repeditive then when you were killing zombies in the noob area. except now they are bigger, badder, and more graphically impressive, some people will be put off by that, and thats fine, im really not all that interested in the &quot;endgame&quot; or a large guild full of politics and &quot;scheduled&quot; guild raids or events, i quest with a small group of friends, and if i decide to start on small instances like Scholo, i can just as easily get a pickupraid. even if i leave WoW having never seen Onyxia or BWL, ill still have fond memories, in the end, thats what matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For one, ill point out that i did infact know that they were adding such ships, however, ill also add that many gaming companies want things in thier games that get lost in the rush of new content or demand for different things, for all of anyones knowledge, these ships could have been put back on the shelf for other ideas.</p>
<p>Ill add in that, being level 60, or being high level doesnt make the game any more repeditive then when you were killing zombies in the noob area. except now they are bigger, badder, and more graphically impressive, some people will be put off by that, and thats fine, im really not all that interested in the &#8220;endgame&#8221; or a large guild full of politics and &#8220;scheduled&#8221; guild raids or events, i quest with a small group of friends, and if i decide to start on small instances like Scholo, i can just as easily get a pickupraid. even if i leave WoW having never seen Onyxia or BWL, ill still have fond memories, in the end, thats what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: tmp</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2533</link>
		<dc:creator>tmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 04:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note... the &quot;gigantic gargantuan doomsday ships that cost several billions of isk to buy&quot; i.e. the titans were planned as part of the content from the very start, and quite a few people got attracted to the game exactly because of their idea. It&#039;s simply only now that they finally got around putting them in the game.

And well, if you find WoW more fun at the moment then the obvious thing to do would be play it instead. But seeing how you begin to reach high levels there, i&#039;d say you&#039;re about to also start experiencing the very thing you complain about in EVE -- dull, repetitious runs through the same content, and finding yourself more and more in the dust as large guilds go on tackling the &#039;endgame&#039; stuff. Well, unless you actually are in one of such guilds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note&#8230; the &#8220;gigantic gargantuan doomsday ships that cost several billions of isk to buy&#8221; i.e. the titans were planned as part of the content from the very start, and quite a few people got attracted to the game exactly because of their idea. It&#8217;s simply only now that they finally got around putting them in the game.</p>
<p>And well, if you find WoW more fun at the moment then the obvious thing to do would be play it instead. But seeing how you begin to reach high levels there, i&#8217;d say you&#8217;re about to also start experiencing the very thing you complain about in EVE &#8212; dull, repetitious runs through the same content, and finding yourself more and more in the dust as large guilds go on tackling the &#8216;endgame&#8217; stuff. Well, unless you actually are in one of such guilds.</p>
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		<title>By: Zxyrox</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2527</link>
		<dc:creator>Zxyrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, if you ever need any money feel free to ask, im almost certain you will find a better use for it, my best advice to you is to keep your wallet closest to you and you alone, otherwise things can and will go bad. and it was mostly the one bad event that soured me, and and for sure him....was one of the most scummy things i&#039;ve ever seen. I wish you the best in your search for a corp though, and all you need to do is ask and ill toss some isk your way. 

-Zxyrox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, if you ever need any money feel free to ask, im almost certain you will find a better use for it, my best advice to you is to keep your wallet closest to you and you alone, otherwise things can and will go bad. and it was mostly the one bad event that soured me, and and for sure him&#8230;.was one of the most scummy things i&#8217;ve ever seen. I wish you the best in your search for a corp though, and all you need to do is ask and ill toss some isk your way. </p>
<p>-Zxyrox</p>
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		<title>By: Ethic</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2525</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two people I respect have mentioned the high scumbag ratio in EVE and it has me a bit worried. I guess my being careful who I associate with has helped so far as I have not once encountered a scumbag during game play (wish I could say the same for WoW). Granted, I&#039;m not in a corporation at the moment, but I&#039;m trying to get into one of the larger ones right now and I guess I&#039;ll find out soon enough.

One things for sure, I keep subscribed to the game because I can &quot;level&quot; offline. Therefore I have very little pressure to play as I cannot &quot;level&quot; any faster by playing. That has always been a thorn in my side in other MMOGs. Everyone I know plays more than me and I always try to play catch up. EVE allows me to play other games all the while I&#039;m still advancing in EVE.

I really can&#039;t comment on the quality (or lack thereof) of the content in EVE because I have hardly played the game in the last several months. Weird.

I can fly interceptors and covert-ops ships but I really wouldn&#039;t know the first thing to do with them other than what I&#039;ve read in forums. I have been practicing flying around in my 30 million ISK covert-ops ship, having fun with the cloak, but it&#039;s mostly a novelty for me. Hey look! I disappeared! Now I&#039;m back! Woohoo! I am, however running out of money so feel free to toss some of that 200 million my way man.

I guess I&#039;ll find out soon enough if I&#039;m going to come to the same conclusions and you and Inhibit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two people I respect have mentioned the high scumbag ratio in EVE and it has me a bit worried. I guess my being careful who I associate with has helped so far as I have not once encountered a scumbag during game play (wish I could say the same for WoW). Granted, I&#8217;m not in a corporation at the moment, but I&#8217;m trying to get into one of the larger ones right now and I guess I&#8217;ll find out soon enough.</p>
<p>One things for sure, I keep subscribed to the game because I can &#8220;level&#8221; offline. Therefore I have very little pressure to play as I cannot &#8220;level&#8221; any faster by playing. That has always been a thorn in my side in other MMOGs. Everyone I know plays more than me and I always try to play catch up. EVE allows me to play other games all the while I&#8217;m still advancing in EVE.</p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t comment on the quality (or lack thereof) of the content in EVE because I have hardly played the game in the last several months. Weird.</p>
<p>I can fly interceptors and covert-ops ships but I really wouldn&#8217;t know the first thing to do with them other than what I&#8217;ve read in forums. I have been practicing flying around in my 30 million ISK covert-ops ship, having fun with the cloak, but it&#8217;s mostly a novelty for me. Hey look! I disappeared! Now I&#8217;m back! Woohoo! I am, however running out of money so feel free to toss some of that 200 million my way man.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;ll find out soon enough if I&#8217;m going to come to the same conclusions and you and Inhibit.</p>
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		<title>By: Zxyrox</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2005/12/04/wow-and-eve-online-where-i-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-2514</link>
		<dc:creator>Zxyrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me when i say, corporation politics arent the amazing aspect of the game, for the most part, the mass multiplayer of this game can go to hell,  its been mentioned by someone else, but the decent person:scum ratio in Eve is just way to high for me to deal with, perhaps it was a bad idea for me to think i could play a game where stealing, betrayal, and manipulation occur on a daily basis, and ive been victim to all three, for now, ill play a game where i can avoid that crap and just play it like its ment to be.. a game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me when i say, corporation politics arent the amazing aspect of the game, for the most part, the mass multiplayer of this game can go to hell,  its been mentioned by someone else, but the decent person:scum ratio in Eve is just way to high for me to deal with, perhaps it was a bad idea for me to think i could play a game where stealing, betrayal, and manipulation occur on a daily basis, and ive been victim to all three, for now, ill play a game where i can avoid that crap and just play it like its ment to be.. a game</p>
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