Comments on: How To Use Patch Notes http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/ a group of adventurers on an epic quest Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:28:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: How to Write Patch Notes | Kill Ten Rats http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-35324 How to Write Patch Notes | Kill Ten Rats Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:04:50 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-35324 [...] we are talking about doing things right, I may have attacked the City of Heroes patch notes before, but one thing they do well is pointing to themes. Some of that is the advertising copy for, [...] [...] we are talking about doing things right, I may have attacked the City of Heroes patch notes before, but one thing they do well is pointing to themes. Some of that is the advertising copy for, [...]

]]> By: Inhibit http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5467 Inhibit Thu, 11 May 2006 05:36:52 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5467 Well, not to be one to point out the obvious here,,, but this is cryptic we're talking about. I never could figure out if that was the company name, or the discription of their thought process. May they all die in a fire. Well, not to be one to point out the obvious here,,, but this is cryptic we’re talking about. I never could figure out if that was the company name, or the discription of their thought process.

May they all die in a fire.

]]> By: blue http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5466 blue Thu, 11 May 2006 04:07:39 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5466 More likely, a combination of -tohit debuff / -damage / Terrorize. Dark Miasma is quite the powerful defensive set, particularly in an environment where mezzes can be targetted to allies. No doubt it's even more powerful when you've got a decent amount of defense on your allies as well. Small heals don't tend to matter much in CoX. Enemies do far too much damage. More likely, a combination of -tohit debuff / -damage / Terrorize. Dark Miasma is quite the powerful defensive set, particularly in an environment where mezzes can be targetted to allies. No doubt it’s even more powerful when you’ve got a decent amount of defense on your allies as well.

Small heals don’t tend to matter much in CoX. Enemies do far too much damage.

]]> By: Jezebeau http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5464 Jezebeau Thu, 11 May 2006 01:08:04 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5464 Yes, but it's a function of *speed*. My first CoX character was an electric/energy blaster, and invincible was still *slow* with SO's. Dark Miasma MM's (I'm assuming the cheap PBAoE heals are the culprit. a lot of players have said the ninjas are useless) can go fight to fight to fight without stopping to regen because they don't spend endurance to deal damage. With a 50% heal to all minions every 6 seconds, only scrappers, blasters, and EB/AV AoE's have any realistic chance of taking them down.. Yes, but it’s a function of *speed*. My first CoX character was an electric/energy blaster, and invincible was still *slow* with SO’s. Dark Miasma MM’s (I’m assuming the cheap PBAoE heals are the culprit. a lot of players have said the ninjas are useless) can go fight to fight to fight without stopping to regen because they don’t spend endurance to deal damage. With a 50% heal to all minions every 6 seconds, only scrappers, blasters, and EB/AV AoE’s have any realistic chance of taking them down..

]]> By: blue http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5457 blue Wed, 10 May 2006 04:24:04 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5457 Dark Miasma, like Radiation Emission, Storm Summoning or Kinetics (heck, with the i7 changes, possibly even Trick Arrow and Force Fields) are too strong in any non-Defender's hands. Buff-debuff sets or archetypes typically have this problem - you can see is just as strongly when play Guild Wars and find a good Mo/Wa or Ra/Me. Admittedly, soloing on Invincible isn't a sign that you're doing overwhelmingly well. Scrappers, Tankers, Brutes, Controllers, and even many Blasters can do that. We're 'supposed' to be balanced around +3s after we get full SOs, although some archetypes really do underperform that consideration. Dark Miasma, like Radiation Emission, Storm Summoning or Kinetics (heck, with the i7 changes, possibly even Trick Arrow and Force Fields) are too strong in any non-Defender’s hands. Buff-debuff sets or archetypes typically have this problem – you can see is just as strongly when play Guild Wars and find a good Mo/Wa or Ra/Me.

Admittedly, soloing on Invincible isn’t a sign that you’re doing overwhelmingly well. Scrappers, Tankers, Brutes, Controllers, and even many Blasters can do that. We’re ‘supposed’ to be balanced around +3s after we get full SOs, although some archetypes really do underperform that consideration.

]]> By: Glazius http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5427 Glazius Tue, 09 May 2006 14:36:37 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5427 I like to think of it as beta-testing the patch notes. Also, my fire/energy melee tank has _totally_ eaten spiked nerfbat since release. The game is completely impossible to play now that I actually have protection against stuns, holds, and sleeps, can resist toxic damage, don't constantly nullify my own status protection, can actually use Rise of the Phoenix as something more than a double-debt power thanks to attack immunity and stun on the flameblast, and can actually stun enemies with Energy Transfer and Barrage. Oh, and the 25% greater damage output? Sheer, unmitigated nerfbat. I can barely struggle through main-tanking endgame 8-man taskforces! --GF I like to think of it as beta-testing the patch notes.

Also, my fire/energy melee tank has _totally_ eaten spiked nerfbat since release. The game is completely impossible to play now that I actually have protection against stuns, holds, and sleeps, can resist toxic damage, don’t constantly nullify my own status protection, can actually use Rise of the Phoenix as something more than a double-debt power thanks to attack immunity and stun on the flameblast, and can actually stun enemies with Energy Transfer and Barrage. Oh, and the 25% greater damage output? Sheer, unmitigated nerfbat.

I can barely struggle through main-tanking endgame 8-man taskforces!

–GF

]]> By: Glazius http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5423 Glazius Tue, 09 May 2006 14:22:25 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5423 Hey! Dark Miasma is going to get nerfed by this! Yeah, it'll suppress just the same as any other stealth variant when the MM goes to click a toggle. OHNOES! --GF Hey! Dark Miasma is going to get nerfed by this!

Yeah, it’ll suppress just the same as any other stealth variant when the MM goes to click a toggle.

OHNOES!

–GF

]]> By: Jezebeau http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5416 Jezebeau Tue, 09 May 2006 06:41:10 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5416 Stupidly enough, MM's are getting a buff (Bodyguard Minion Mode). I thought it was bad enough that I can work at Relentless/Invincible without dying short of running into a Blaster/Scrapper Elite Boss without a Shivan Shard. I hate to say it, but MM-variant Dark Miasma needs a nerf. Stupidly enough, MM’s are getting a buff (Bodyguard Minion Mode). I thought it was bad enough that I can work at Relentless/Invincible without dying short of running into a Blaster/Scrapper Elite Boss without a Shivan Shard. I hate to say it, but MM-variant Dark Miasma needs a nerf.

]]> By: Zubon http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5376 Zubon Mon, 08 May 2006 22:16:11 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5376 Just a couple this time. This is more a comment on the note development process than any nerfs. Just a couple this time. This is more a comment on the note development process than any nerfs.

]]> By: winter http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/05/08/how-to-use-patch-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-5375 winter Mon, 08 May 2006 22:12:49 +0000 http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=684#comment-5375 What more nerfs for CoH/CoV? Is anyone even suprised anymore when Jack nerfs the shit out of them every patch? What more nerfs for CoH/CoV? Is anyone even suprised anymore when Jack nerfs the shit out of them every patch?

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