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	<title>Comments on: Priests and Bikini Waxes</title>
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		<title>By: Recent Searches at Kill Ten Rats</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/11/30/priests-and-bikini-waxes/comment-page-1/#comment-24279</link>
		<dc:creator>Recent Searches at Kill Ten Rats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think all the bikini and bikini wax searches are my fault, but I can blame Ethic for some of them. I have no idea how long it takes to heal from a bikini [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] think all the bikini and bikini wax searches are my fault, but I can blame Ethic for some of them. I have no idea how long it takes to heal from a bikini [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tell Me How Very Wrong I Am at Kill Ten Rats</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/11/30/priests-and-bikini-waxes/comment-page-1/#comment-22468</link>
		<dc:creator>Tell Me How Very Wrong I Am at Kill Ten Rats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 10:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] proposals. My specialty seems to be extended ruminations that explore several aspects of an idea without necessarily going anywhere. We have many notions that could be improved by further [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] proposals. My specialty seems to be extended ruminations that explore several aspects of an idea without necessarily going anywhere. We have many notions that could be improved by further [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kill Ten Rats &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tanks and Healers</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/11/30/priests-and-bikini-waxes/comment-page-1/#comment-16981</link>
		<dc:creator>Kill Ten Rats &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tanks and Healers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [City of Villains] I have mentioned several times my fondness for the City of Villains archetypes, all hybrid damage dealers structured so that you can do fine without a tank and/or healer. It is funny that the end-game content, Lord Recluse&#8217;s Strike Force, is exactly a tanker and healer party. Well, tanker and buffer. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [City of Villains] I have mentioned several times my fondness for the City of Villains archetypes, all hybrid damage dealers structured so that you can do fine without a tank and/or healer. It is funny that the end-game content, Lord Recluse&#8217;s Strike Force, is exactly a tanker and healer party. Well, tanker and buffer. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Support classes? For the birds! Groups that require them? Broken. - What Would Matt Do - I really need something cool here.</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/11/30/priests-and-bikini-waxes/comment-page-1/#comment-12245</link>
		<dc:creator>Support classes? For the birds! Groups that require them? Broken. - What Would Matt Do - I really need something cool here.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I like this entry on Kill Ten Rats (and what a name for a website&#8230;wish I would have thought of it. Though I would have used Kobolds. Because Kobolds rock). It goes like this&#8230; Support classes aren&#039;t fun to play for most people. They are a necessity in a lot of MMORPGs and that&#039;s just not right. Everyone loves these classes. More specifically, everyone loves for someone else to play these classes. My Thermal Corruptor can give you armor, heals, increased damage output, protection against crowd control, and a rez if all else fails. This is great for you, but 2/3 of my powers are completely useless if I solo. Damage output is sexy; damage mitigation is tedious. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I like this entry on Kill Ten Rats (and what a name for a website&#8230;wish I would have thought of it. Though I would have used Kobolds. Because Kobolds rock). It goes like this&#8230; Support classes aren&#39;t fun to play for most people. They are a necessity in a lot of MMORPGs and that&#39;s just not right. Everyone loves these classes. More specifically, everyone loves for someone else to play these classes. My Thermal Corruptor can give you armor, heals, increased damage output, protection against crowd control, and a rez if all else fails. This is great for you, but 2/3 of my powers are completely useless if I solo. Damage output is sexy; damage mitigation is tedious. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zubon</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/11/30/priests-and-bikini-waxes/comment-page-1/#comment-12185</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;People do it for the group to succeed, but only so they themselves can succeed.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;d say we really do some things altruistically.  I do things for my friends for their benefit without long-term benefit to myself or even an expectation of reciprocity.  When someone wants a purely decorative badge or shiny, and you can get it for him quickly, you just do.  I get 0xp, he gets something that will never help me.  Maybe that is contributing to an ethic of mutual aid that ultimately works to my benefit, but mostly I&#039;m helping my friend there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;People do it for the group to succeed, but only so they themselves can succeed.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;d say we really do some things altruistically.  I do things for my friends for their benefit without long-term benefit to myself or even an expectation of reciprocity.  When someone wants a purely decorative badge or shiny, and you can get it for him quickly, you just do.  I get 0xp, he gets something that will never help me.  Maybe that is contributing to an ethic of mutual aid that ultimately works to my benefit, but mostly I&#8217;m helping my friend there.</p>
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		<title>By: yunk</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/11/30/priests-and-bikini-waxes/comment-page-1/#comment-12176</link>
		<dc:creator>yunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant &quot;get ahead&quot; not &quot;get head&quot;   *shifty eyes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant &#8220;get ahead&#8221; not &#8220;get head&#8221;   *shifty eyes*</p>
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		<title>By: yunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>yunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In MMO’s, I care about the welfare/success of my group (guild). The success of that group gives me pleasure. Therefore, I roll support classes to please myself.&quot;

Not really, it&#039;s not much different. People do it for the group to succeed, but only so they themselves can succeed. It&#039;s no different than when your manager asks you to take over some system or process that you don&#039;t want. You do it anyway not because you love your company and want it to succeed, but because those in authority said they needed it, and you thought it would help you get head. It&#039;s the same in wow. You do it for the group, you might want to help out the group because it&#039;s fun .. but it&#039;s ultimately to help yourself. To see the rest of the game, and to get more dkp to spend on either character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In MMO’s, I care about the welfare/success of my group (guild). The success of that group gives me pleasure. Therefore, I roll support classes to please myself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really, it&#8217;s not much different. People do it for the group to succeed, but only so they themselves can succeed. It&#8217;s no different than when your manager asks you to take over some system or process that you don&#8217;t want. You do it anyway not because you love your company and want it to succeed, but because those in authority said they needed it, and you thought it would help you get head. It&#8217;s the same in wow. You do it for the group, you might want to help out the group because it&#8217;s fun .. but it&#8217;s ultimately to help yourself. To see the rest of the game, and to get more dkp to spend on either character.</p>
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		<title>By: Tattered Page &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Support classes and Bikini Wax</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2006/11/30/priests-and-bikini-waxes/comment-page-1/#comment-12170</link>
		<dc:creator>Tattered Page &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Support classes and Bikini Wax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kill Ten Rats has a great post up comparing support classes to Bikini wax: suffering you subject yourself to so you can bring enjoyment to others.  Analogies like that keep that site high on my must-read list. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kill Ten Rats has a great post up comparing support classes to Bikini wax: suffering you subject yourself to so you can bring enjoyment to others.  Analogies like that keep that site high on my must-read list. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tholal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tholal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Joe. The whole concept of having classes that are boring to play comes about because of the strict class limitations. Give players a more open skill/advancement system so that everyone can be a hybrid if they want. The trick is to balance it so that those who stay more focused on a particular set of skills get some very nice powers and bonuses that would be unavailable to those who play the tank-mage or jack-of-all-trades type characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Joe. The whole concept of having classes that are boring to play comes about because of the strict class limitations. Give players a more open skill/advancement system so that everyone can be a hybrid if they want. The trick is to balance it so that those who stay more focused on a particular set of skills get some very nice powers and bonuses that would be unavailable to those who play the tank-mage or jack-of-all-trades type characters.</p>
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		<title>By: Axecleaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axecleaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting analogy, and it works for the unattached player. But in the business world, an entity cares only for itself. In MMO&#039;s, I care about the welfare/success of my group (guild). The success of that group gives me pleasure. Therefore, I roll support classes to please myself.

Having said that, it is nice when architects realize that even the most dedicated group-oriented player will occasionally want some me-time. Solo play is an important part of any class. WoW got this pretty well nailed down, better than any game before it. Unfortunately, it kind of falls apart in the 60 raiding end-game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting analogy, and it works for the unattached player. But in the business world, an entity cares only for itself. In MMO&#8217;s, I care about the welfare/success of my group (guild). The success of that group gives me pleasure. Therefore, I roll support classes to please myself.</p>
<p>Having said that, it is nice when architects realize that even the most dedicated group-oriented player will occasionally want some me-time. Solo play is an important part of any class. WoW got this pretty well nailed down, better than any game before it. Unfortunately, it kind of falls apart in the 60 raiding end-game.</p>
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