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	<title>Comments on: Hellgate: London &#8211; Demo</title>
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		<title>By: Jezebeau</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2007/10/18/hellgate-london-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-24653</link>
		<dc:creator>Jezebeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 01:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nicodemus:  No one said it&#039;s not a massively multiplayer online *shooter* (which it is, as much as any game under the EQ model claims to be).

@Raymond Hayes: that&#039;s because a lot of MMO games aren&#039;t necessarily RPGs.  Hellgate:London feels like more of an action-adventure game.  Simply categorizing any game where you choose your character&#039;s name and hairstyle as an RPG really weakens the definition of the genre.  I would argue that Planetside is an MMO, but it&#039;s certainly not an RPG by any classical definition of the term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicodemus:  No one said it&#8217;s not a massively multiplayer online *shooter* (which it is, as much as any game under the EQ model claims to be).</p>
<p>@Raymond Hayes: that&#8217;s because a lot of MMO games aren&#8217;t necessarily RPGs.  Hellgate:London feels like more of an action-adventure game.  Simply categorizing any game where you choose your character&#8217;s name and hairstyle as an RPG really weakens the definition of the genre.  I would argue that Planetside is an MMO, but it&#8217;s certainly not an RPG by any classical definition of the term.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Hayes</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2007/10/18/hellgate-london-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-24636</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MMO always gets the last part left off for some reason...and that is another issue..

Remember the RPG part?
And Hellgate:London will be Massively Multplayer(thousands of people online)..Online (of course) and it is an RPG..

There...it is an MMORPG...whaddy know...lol
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MMO always gets the last part left off for some reason&#8230;and that is another issue..</p>
<p>Remember the RPG part?<br />
And Hellgate:London will be Massively Multplayer(thousands of people online)..Online (of course) and it is an RPG..</p>
<p>There&#8230;it is an MMORPG&#8230;whaddy know&#8230;lol<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Ethic</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2007/10/18/hellgate-london-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-24634</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nine: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.killtenrats.com/2007/03/11/what-the-hell-is-an-mmorpg/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Already been done.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nine: <a href="http://www.killtenrats.com/2007/03/11/what-the-hell-is-an-mmorpg/" rel="nofollow">Already been done.</a></p>
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		<title>By: nine</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2007/10/18/hellgate-london-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-24630</link>
		<dc:creator>nine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I smell a &#039;what is an MMO&#039; post coming up by someone here... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I smell a &#8216;what is an MMO&#8217; post coming up by someone here&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Nicodemus</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2007/10/18/hellgate-london-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-24628</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicodemus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet that Bill Roper would classify online chess as an MMO too. After all, you are connected to thousands of other people in your community.

Maybe I&#039;m wrong and just a dork. I mean, Tabula Rasa is a earth-shattering revolutionary role-playing game right? Garriot can&#039;t be wrong after all. It isn&#039;t just a multiplayer shooter like I said it was...right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet that Bill Roper would classify online chess as an MMO too. After all, you are connected to thousands of other people in your community.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m wrong and just a dork. I mean, Tabula Rasa is a earth-shattering revolutionary role-playing game right? Garriot can&#8217;t be wrong after all. It isn&#8217;t just a multiplayer shooter like I said it was&#8230;right?</p>
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		<title>By: Ethic</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2007/10/18/hellgate-london-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-24626</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a recent Bill Roper interview: &lt;strong&gt;Do you have a name for this kind of thing? I mean, is it a minimally multiplayer online game?&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;No, it&#039;s an MMO. I mean, MMO means &quot;massively multiplayer online.&quot; We&#039;re gonna be connecting hundreds of thousands to millions of players online. You know, Diablo 2 is an MMO, but in people&#039;s heads when they think MMO they think the EverQuest model so that gives them all these parameters of what an MMO is. And then---I don&#039;t know if this gets driven by marketing groups or by sales or fans, I don&#039;t know--people really seem to need, have that need to be able to strictly define things. Like I know that Raph Koster at one point referred to Guild Wars as a hub-and-instance MMO, trying to narrow down what kind of MMO it was. It&#039;s an MMO. You go online and you&#039;re playing with, you know, thousands of other people in your community. That&#039;s what Hellgate is. It&#039;s an MMO.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a recent Bill Roper interview: <strong>Do you have a name for this kind of thing? I mean, is it a minimally multiplayer online game?</strong> &#8220;No, it&#8217;s an MMO. I mean, MMO means &#8220;massively multiplayer online.&#8221; We&#8217;re gonna be connecting hundreds of thousands to millions of players online. You know, Diablo 2 is an MMO, but in people&#8217;s heads when they think MMO they think the EverQuest model so that gives them all these parameters of what an MMO is. And then&#8212;I don&#8217;t know if this gets driven by marketing groups or by sales or fans, I don&#8217;t know&#8211;people really seem to need, have that need to be able to strictly define things. Like I know that Raph Koster at one point referred to Guild Wars as a hub-and-instance MMO, trying to narrow down what kind of MMO it was. It&#8217;s an MMO. You go online and you&#8217;re playing with, you know, thousands of other people in your community. That&#8217;s what Hellgate is. It&#8217;s an MMO.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now they&#039;re claiming it&#039;s a MMO? It&#039;s no more a MMO than Diablo was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now they&#8217;re claiming it&#8217;s a MMO? It&#8217;s no more a MMO than Diablo was.</p>
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		<title>By: Brinstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brinstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They weren&#039;t calling it an MMOG a year ago.

I&#039;m playing the beta and haven&#039;t made my final judgment on whether to buy the full version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They weren&#8217;t calling it an MMOG a year ago.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m playing the beta and haven&#8217;t made my final judgment on whether to buy the full version.</p>
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