Comments on: Further, More Positive First Thoughts

By: Ethic

Ethic — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:41:44 +0000

@Zubon: It is the same with us. When you are level 50, do you bother with the level 5 creatures that you run by? I think not.

By: yunk

yunk — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:13:54 +0000

Maybe the guards see the orcs and thinks it’s a trick to get him to chase them while the elite orcs sneak by. So he stands at his post and lets the 200hp orcs run by for the townspeople to deal with.

By: Ethic

Ethic — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:29:03 +0000

@Jeromai: Classic

By: Jeromai

Jeromai — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:57:06 +0000

The light. It burns us. Nasty wicked Shire and Bree sunlight weakens and delevels us.

By: Zubon

Zubon — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:57:04 +0000

That sounds good. I’ll take that.

Now someone get Turbine to explain how the level 5-10 orcs and goblins slipped by the level 50 guards at Trestlebridge and set up huge camps in Bree and The Shire. I don’t see how the forces of good will win against enemies that mass-produce 40,000hp orcs, but somehow only the 200hp ones make it to the home cities.

By: Chris F

Chris F — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:44:01 +0000

Technically if you look at the Realm map you are at the furthest point from the main objectives of control. Consider it the weakest Greenskin outpost being attacked by the weakest Dwarven troops. The more valuable troops are further inland protecting the more important assets.

Sure, still a bit of a stretch, but are we getting closer?

By: Zubon

Zubon — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:52:55 +0000

I get the fort, which is a much better explanation than most games have (i.e. none) for how the weakest enemies got all the way to the heartland. Still, this is the base of the Greenskin attack, and there are level 1 dwarfs holding it back?

Well, I guess not. We steamroller them every time the PQ comes up.

By: Tholal

Tholal — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:45:29 +0000

[quote]Second, how did those level 1 dwarfs make it past all the outer guards, all the way to the Greenskin newbie area?[/quote]

They’re from that big fort that is right next to the Greenskin starting area that is also the focus of the entire Chapter 1 Greenskin assault (including the Public Quest, and being catapulted onto their walls)

By: Chris F

Chris F — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:13:46 +0000

Second side tip (sorry forgot to throw this in the last, and of course can’t edit). If you are just solo questing or doing PQ’s, and your friends are doing the same in other pairings, group up. Have them ‘join as group’ for their pairing scenario, and you do the same. That way you don’t have to fly to the other warcamps to get into the other scenarios – it will pop for you as it will for them.

By: Chris F

Chris F — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:58:06 +0000

I am the first to admit WAR doesn’t do much new besides providing a new backdrop and RVR style gameplay – but I am a big fan. I was won over by not having to do quests.

In beta with one character I got to Rank 20 RR 18 without doing a single, generic, typical quest. No Kill X’s. No escorts. I simply Did Scenarios, Open field RVR, and Public Quests to kill the time in between.

Tip: Once you get to your warcamp, you can fly to other pairing’s warcamps, and que up for their scenarios too. So with 3 scenarios in que at any time, I would do PQ’s while waiting or capture Battlefield Objectives in Open RVR (if a group of people were doing them). Didn’t have to quest at all – admittedly, I would pick up the Scenario quests (repeatable – do Khaine’s embrace, Gates of Ekrund etc, to make sure I had ample cash flow) and also pick up the open field RVR quests (Kill X # of enemies) but again that is just duplicating my current actions anyway. My only beef so far is that you can’t que for other scenarios from wherever you are, just your own.

After getting as far as I did without doing the old school quests I realized it provided me with a different way to level and me likey. If you are a quester the quests are decently written, but if you are not, you do not have to worry about not being able to advance.