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By: Iv

Iv — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:49:46 +0000

I think you’re absolutely wrong,only using this term “epic fail” makes me want to slap you. Warhammer is working on the game. WoW in the start was rubbish. It didn’t have any pvp. Only quests “yay” it turns out to be a great game now. Only the pvp still sucks.
Warhammer orvr already is 10x better .. But it’s not that easy, so that scares alot of people away, thats ignorance.

And boehoe it’ll turn you into a chicken ? go explore when you are at that level, period.

By: Lucid

Lucid — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:33:39 +0000

Awe, hims cant grief new players to make his e-peen bigger. :( So sad.

By: LtWarhound

LtWarhound — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:13:55 +0000

Cyndre, that wouldn’t work.

Unflagged, the player from a higher tier can still indirectly PvP you. You are fighting in a keep, he strolls in, past you and your guild because you can’t attack unflagged PCs, and takes out the keep lord. There goes the keep you were trying to defend.

Or you are trying to do a PQ, he strolls up and heals/buffs the flagged enemy players that ran up with him, while they attack you.

Simply shutting off their ability to flag doesn’t solve the problem.

The closest to a viable solution is a reverse bolster, drag the uptier player down to the level of the content. Remove any skills his new level doesn’t allow, downgrade his gear, etc. Even that has problems, and to be honest, is more work than Mythic should be doing to support a very small subset of the playerbase. I’d much rather have those same resources working on bug fixes and new content for the entire playerbase.

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By: Shalkis

Shalkis — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:09:51 +0000

So.. you want blueshielding? My WoW realm has a history of World PvP raids ruined by having an untouchable blueshielder in the middle of the enemy raid, reporting their group makeup and every move.

By: Cyndre

Cyndre — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:30:09 +0000

Yunk, reread my comments… I am advocating Tier specific ONLY, but no chicken anywhere. Instead, just auto-unflag out-tier people and then they can’t contribute to the lower tier PvP, but they can travel to those zone.

By: yunk

yunk — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:37:22 +0000

yes the open ruleset doesn’t work, but also the rules Cyndre proposes won’t work either, not for WAR at least. It’s supposed to be “war is everywhere”, and you contribute right from level 1. But if lvl 40s are out there in t1 or t2 zones, then it won’t be war is everywhere, it will be “war starts at 40″ since you’d have to be 40 to compete in rvr at all, which is the opposite of how the whole game is designed.

I can only imagine that is why they left the chicken in, because otherwise it would basically break the game. It would be trivial for a bunch of 40s to go take a t2 keep. Most others wouldn’t bother to defend it and probably just stay in t4. Unless, as you point out, it’s the “non competative” guilds fighting it out with their 40s in the lower tiers.

I don’t know, it seems to me if you want ffa or full pvp all the time you need a game that’s based on that concept. WAR is based on tiers of equal level opponents fighting, which could not be more different, even though it’s pvp.

I actually liked the earlier version, rvr everywhere, but you can’t even go 1 level down. i was considering having an alt on an open with that rule, but not the way they made it now.