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	<title>Comments on: Tier 3 Scenarios</title>
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	<description>a group of adventurers on an epic quest</description>
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		<title>By: Zubon</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/06/tier-3-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-28006</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunspots: but on an Order character, it is &lt;em&gt;hilarious&lt;/em&gt; to watch Ironbreakers send people for a hot swim.

I am expecting balance fun in the 20s and 30s as more Destruction classes get a useful healing debuff.  The Rune Priest, of all classes, gets a -100% healing on crit trait.  I think I will send my Rune Priest up that tree just to get more of that on Order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunspots: but on an Order character, it is <em>hilarious</em> to watch Ironbreakers send people for a hot swim.</p>
<p>I am expecting balance fun in the 20s and 30s as more Destruction classes get a useful healing debuff.  The Rune Priest, of all classes, gets a -100% healing on crit trait.  I think I will send my Rune Priest up that tree just to get more of that on Order.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunspots</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/06/tier-3-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-28005</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunspots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unbalanced in two ways, one that benefits destruction (the marauder have both flee and a sprint ability which means a marauder can speed there first easily (although I as a Zealot usually get up there before any order anyway, gotta be geographical differences)
But then there is the knockback problem, if I remember right, there is at least three careers on the order side that has knockbacks while I think it is only one on the destruction side, which means that Order often wins by knocking everyone to hell, the ability to kill like 3-4 players (that falls into the lava) and delay even more(people who survive the lava or are just knocked away 100 ft) with one ability is pretty OP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unbalanced in two ways, one that benefits destruction (the marauder have both flee and a sprint ability which means a marauder can speed there first easily (although I as a Zealot usually get up there before any order anyway, gotta be geographical differences)<br />
But then there is the knockback problem, if I remember right, there is at least three careers on the order side that has knockbacks while I think it is only one on the destruction side, which means that Order often wins by knocking everyone to hell, the ability to kill like 3-4 players (that falls into the lava) and delay even more(people who survive the lava or are just knocked away 100 ft) with one ability is pretty OP.</p>
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		<title>By: Zygwen</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/06/tier-3-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-27952</link>
		<dc:creator>Zygwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my server (Thorgrim) Talabec Dam is the normal tier 3 scenario to spawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my server (Thorgrim) Talabec Dam is the normal tier 3 scenario to spawn.</p>
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		<title>By: yunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>yunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at a football game over the weekend, and I thought of something. For hundreds of years now we've had various sports where you travel down a field. And in every case the sides switch at different points during the games, even for indoor games. the reason is to make sure it's fair, even though the courts and fields are completely even, wind, the crowd, weather all might make a difference.

Yet, despite all this experience in game making, MMO developers continue to deliberately make maps that are not only asymmetrical, but don't even have the players start at random sides. It just boggles my mind that they still do this, even though no one making rules for games in the "real world" would dream of doing something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at a football game over the weekend, and I thought of something. For hundreds of years now we&#8217;ve had various sports where you travel down a field. And in every case the sides switch at different points during the games, even for indoor games. the reason is to make sure it&#8217;s fair, even though the courts and fields are completely even, wind, the crowd, weather all might make a difference.</p>
<p>Yet, despite all this experience in game making, MMO developers continue to deliberately make maps that are not only asymmetrical, but don&#8217;t even have the players start at random sides. It just boggles my mind that they still do this, even though no one making rules for games in the &#8220;real world&#8221; would dream of doing something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh The Stampede</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/06/tier-3-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-27949</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh The Stampede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"As a result, a lot of Order people refuse to play Tor Anoroc."

Really? Tor Anroc is the ONLY T3 scen that ever pops on Ulthuan. I'm only level 22, and have played maybe 10 rounds of T3 scenarios, queueing for all 6 every time, and I have literally never seen a pop for anything other than Tor Anroc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As a result, a lot of Order people refuse to play Tor Anoroc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Tor Anroc is the ONLY T3 scen that ever pops on Ulthuan. I&#8217;m only level 22, and have played maybe 10 rounds of T3 scenarios, queueing for all 6 every time, and I have literally never seen a pop for anything other than Tor Anroc.</p>
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		<title>By: Saylah</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/06/tier-3-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-27948</link>
		<dc:creator>Saylah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch, that sucks that they released with an unbalanced battlefield.  Ensure equality seems like it would be the first thing you must consider in the design since winning provides substantially better reward.  I'm glad to have read this now.  I've just edged over into the T3 content.  I'm going to continue with the T2 until I hit level 22 - like 3 winning scenarios or so.  But I'll completely skip Tor Anoroc until I've read that it's been fixed.

What probably sucks more is that the population at T3 is rather thin still. You can't afford to have bad game mechanics discourage players from participating in content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch, that sucks that they released with an unbalanced battlefield.  Ensure equality seems like it would be the first thing you must consider in the design since winning provides substantially better reward.  I&#8217;m glad to have read this now.  I&#8217;ve just edged over into the T3 content.  I&#8217;m going to continue with the T2 until I hit level 22 - like 3 winning scenarios or so.  But I&#8217;ll completely skip Tor Anoroc until I&#8217;ve read that it&#8217;s been fixed.</p>
<p>What probably sucks more is that the population at T3 is rather thin still. You can&#8217;t afford to have bad game mechanics discourage players from participating in content.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas M Luster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas M Luster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think it's a combination of last-minute joins and less Order than Destruction being queued. Reserved spaces aren't filled until the 150 seconds (sixty seconds for the "yes, but give me a minute", then ninety seconds for auto-join), in which case everyone who is tied up in combat in a PQ drops out and adds are filled in.

With less players, a higher percentage is tied up in PQs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think it&#8217;s a combination of last-minute joins and less Order than Destruction being queued. Reserved spaces aren&#8217;t filled until the 150 seconds (sixty seconds for the &#8220;yes, but give me a minute&#8221;, then ninety seconds for auto-join), in which case everyone who is tied up in combat in a PQ drops out and adds are filled in.</p>
<p>With less players, a higher percentage is tied up in PQs.</p>
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		<title>By: Zygwen</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/06/tier-3-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-27945</link>
		<dc:creator>Zygwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geographicaly, Tor Anoroc favors destro getting the ball first. The only ways Order could get it first was by using a White Lion. They hot fixed that so we're back to destro getting the ball first 99% of the time. As a result, a lot of Order people refuse to play Tor Anoroc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geographicaly, Tor Anoroc favors destro getting the ball first. The only ways Order could get it first was by using a White Lion. They hot fixed that so we&#8217;re back to destro getting the ball first 99% of the time. As a result, a lot of Order people refuse to play Tor Anoroc.</p>
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