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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s All We Have</title>
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		<title>By: Ravious</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/13/its-all-we-have/comment-page-1/#comment-28671</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tesh who said &quot;I do not exist in their calculations precisely because I have not given them money.&quot;

I don&#039;t think that&#039;s entirely accurate.  You are part of some marketing number in Blizzard&#039;s megacorp.  However, current customers and recent customers are going to seriously trump over the untouched, available market you stand in.

Your &quot;market power&quot; definitely increases a little by buying into games with business models you want to participate in, but your market power in Blizzard&#039;s eye was small to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tesh who said &#8220;I do not exist in their calculations precisely because I have not given them money.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s entirely accurate.  You are part of some marketing number in Blizzard&#8217;s megacorp.  However, current customers and recent customers are going to seriously trump over the untouched, available market you stand in.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;market power&#8221; definitely increases a little by buying into games with business models you want to participate in, but your market power in Blizzard&#8217;s eye was small to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Tesh</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/13/its-all-we-have/comment-page-1/#comment-28668</link>
		<dc:creator>Tesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s not much that those of us who never bought in can do.  It&#039;s like not voting; how can the number monkeys discern between a protest vote, ignorance, or simple laziness?

I have &quot;voted&quot; with my wallet to stay out of WoW, despite loving the ten day trial.  I have taken a principled stand, but to Blizzard, I&#039;m no different than a non-customer.  I do not exist in their calculations precisely because I have not given them money.

What recourse is there for those like me who would jump into the game wholeheartedly if it had a Guild Wars business model?  I bought GW, but even that&#039;s fairly irrelevant to Blizzard.

Are paying customers the only ones with a say?  What about $100 or so that Blizzard could easily make from me if they went with the GW model?  I&#039;d love to support the devs for their efforts, but I do not find sufficient value in the subscription model for me to participate.

If they made the business changes I want, I&#039;d send them the $100 at the drop of a hat.  Until then, what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s not much that those of us who never bought in can do.  It&#8217;s like not voting; how can the number monkeys discern between a protest vote, ignorance, or simple laziness?</p>
<p>I have &#8220;voted&#8221; with my wallet to stay out of WoW, despite loving the ten day trial.  I have taken a principled stand, but to Blizzard, I&#8217;m no different than a non-customer.  I do not exist in their calculations precisely because I have not given them money.</p>
<p>What recourse is there for those like me who would jump into the game wholeheartedly if it had a Guild Wars business model?  I bought GW, but even that&#8217;s fairly irrelevant to Blizzard.</p>
<p>Are paying customers the only ones with a say?  What about $100 or so that Blizzard could easily make from me if they went with the GW model?  I&#8217;d love to support the devs for their efforts, but I do not find sufficient value in the subscription model for me to participate.</p>
<p>If they made the business changes I want, I&#8217;d send them the $100 at the drop of a hat.  Until then, what?</p>
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		<title>By: Ravious</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/13/its-all-we-have/comment-page-1/#comment-28125</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my favorite experiences was where money talks, was cancelling my account in A Tale in the Desert.  One of the devs gives you his direct number to chat him up with why you left.  Better than WoW&#039;s guilt page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favorite experiences was where money talks, was cancelling my account in A Tale in the Desert.  One of the devs gives you his direct number to chat him up with why you left.  Better than WoW&#8217;s guilt page.</p>
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		<title>By: Openedge1</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/13/its-all-we-have/comment-page-1/#comment-28101</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put my money where my mouth is...

Did it to LOTRO, Vanguard, EQ2, Age of Conan.

But, I am willing to go back if they fix my issues...

EQ2 has just recently made strides to fix their performance issues (my main gripe)...they deserve me trying again.
Age of Conan -  Performance fixed and new content added....went back..
LOTRO - UI and Characters ugly as all get up...STILL not fixed...refuse to pay...deleted.
Vanguard...STILL a mess overall...deleted.

I agree...people need to follow suit.
Have an issue? Cancel until they either fix it or move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put my money where my mouth is&#8230;</p>
<p>Did it to LOTRO, Vanguard, EQ2, Age of Conan.</p>
<p>But, I am willing to go back if they fix my issues&#8230;</p>
<p>EQ2 has just recently made strides to fix their performance issues (my main gripe)&#8230;they deserve me trying again.<br />
Age of Conan &#8211;  Performance fixed and new content added&#8230;.went back..<br />
LOTRO &#8211; UI and Characters ugly as all get up&#8230;STILL not fixed&#8230;refuse to pay&#8230;deleted.<br />
Vanguard&#8230;STILL a mess overall&#8230;deleted.</p>
<p>I agree&#8230;people need to follow suit.<br />
Have an issue? Cancel until they either fix it or move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Afterhour</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2008/10/13/its-all-we-have/comment-page-1/#comment-28099</link>
		<dc:creator>Afterhour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Shut up and pay me your $10 a month, little man. My Porsche needs some performance upgrades.&quot; 

-Milo D. Cooper, Verant employee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Shut up and pay me your $10 a month, little man. My Porsche needs some performance upgrades.&#8221; </p>
<p>-Milo D. Cooper, Verant employee</p>
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		<title>By: SD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$15? Perhaps you were thinking of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkY--mEUBH0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a certain movie ditty&lt;/a&gt;. (Of course, the Car Talk guys would just say that &quot;someone needs to make a new boat payment.&quot;) 

If there&#039;s any reason people get caught up with posturing, it&#039;s out of a sense of immediacy. Even if their expectations aren&#039;t being met with a new MMO, they resignedly consider the title to be an unfinished masterpiece, or a grudging work in progress. The urge to be stimulated online isn&#039;t different from ordering fast food: you can go elsewhere, and ever get better for less, but by staying, you&#039;re giving in to impulse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$15? Perhaps you were thinking of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkY--mEUBH0" rel="nofollow">a certain movie ditty</a>. (Of course, the Car Talk guys would just say that &#8220;someone needs to make a new boat payment.&#8221;) </p>
<p>If there&#8217;s any reason people get caught up with posturing, it&#8217;s out of a sense of immediacy. Even if their expectations aren&#8217;t being met with a new MMO, they resignedly consider the title to be an unfinished masterpiece, or a grudging work in progress. The urge to be stimulated online isn&#8217;t different from ordering fast food: you can go elsewhere, and ever get better for less, but by staying, you&#8217;re giving in to impulse.</p>
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