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By: [Rift] A Spam Contribution | Kill Ten Rats

[Rift] A Spam Contribution | Kill Ten Rats — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:21:30 +0000

[...] remember that Warhammer Online also had pretty big issues balancing contribution… serious issues. But then, Warhammer Online also decided that ranking each player was necessary. Oh wait, so does [...]

By: Guild Lord vs. Keep Lord | Kill Ten Rats

Guild Lord vs. Keep Lord | Kill Ten Rats — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:07:56 +0000

[...] “calculated” contribution to the siege. The problems of this system have been discussed. Guild Wars has a system in place to turn in Balthazar Faction for Zaishen Keys, which convert to [...]

By: Arkenor

Arkenor — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:41:16 +0000

That would explain an awful lot.

By: Ravious

Ravious — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:33:26 +0000

That. Is very disturbing.

By: Sinnach

Sinnach — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:30:26 +0000

Eh, it’s a bug. Contribution in keep takes is reversed. That is, the less you do, the higher you rank, and the more you do, the lower you rank.

I’m 1000% certain, and have been for several weeks. Why they haven’t fixed it is beyond me, but its very easy to tell. Join a keep raid in progress…afk until the keep lord, cast 2 dots and rank second. A shadow warrior in my guild did this on of the the overnight sweeps of all 6 tier four keeps, and won first place loot three times. He didn’t help at all until the keep lord and only turned on auto attack for that. It’s totally reversed, I’ll bet my account on it.

By: Random Poster

Random Poster — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:40:59 +0000

It’s yet another example of what irritates me about WAR. Good concept…poor execution, which pretty much sums up the majority of the game.

By: Ravious

Ravious — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:35:23 +0000

Yeah, contribution is only part of the problem. I know so many times I have worked in a tricky PQ with a small band of people (not an instant zerg-win) and when we finally beat the boss… green bags. Worthless green bags.

I don’t know what weird science they have that determines if/when a blue/gold/purple bag drops… but they seem too rare.

And also have a pass option, so like the tank can pass on gold bags he doesn’t want or need.

By: Arkenor

Arkenor — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:07:13 +0000

Given that we need to get a gold bag from a keep capture to get the Chestpiece of the RvR armour sets, it is particularly important that Keep captures are fair in how they judge contribution.

I know one chap, a tank, who’s had 3 gold bags now. He doesn’t want them. He’s got his devastator chest, and would be much happier if someone else got one.

As an Engineer I have zero chance of ever seeing my Devastator chest and completing my set. It would require far too many people with bigger bonuses to roll truly badly.

On Saturday, we had the worst thing happen. In spite of our warband having spent the best part of seven hours completing the Witching Hours PQ, only one of us even got to roll. The rest were told we had not contributed enough. It was a complete let-down.

By: Pendan

Pendan — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:59:16 +0000

Contribution numbers are messed up. In Altdorf is a PQ where just need to click on 15 items that spawn when it is started. I was showing two friends this PQ. We were grouped. We ran through it once and each of us click a relatively even number of items. Then one of the friends had to go afk. While we were waiting for her to return the two of us did the PQ again. The afk person did not pick up a single one of the 15 items needed but was still grouped with the two of us that did. PQ ended and the afk person had number 1 contribution.

I have done some other experimenting with this PQ. Ungrouped I have picked up only 1 item and contributed enough to get a bag. Another time I picked up 2 items and was told at roll time I had not contributed enough to roll.

By: Ravious

Ravious — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:25:34 +0000

I am wondering if the system saw me do my “job” as a healer really well when I healed two guys taking damage from the keep lord, and it did not see me suck at damage output while knocking down the keep door.

That’s the only thing I can figure.