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		<title>By: Bruceongames</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-37303</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruceongames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of detective work has revealed the shadowy people behind Evony: http://www.bruceongames.com/2010/02/19/the-people-behind-evony/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of detective work has revealed the shadowy people behind Evony: <a href="http://www.bruceongames.com/2010/02/19/the-people-behind-evony/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruceongames.com/2010/02/19/the-people-behind-evony/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ravious</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-36740</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty interesting....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty interesting&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-36738</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the new version Evony 3.08. My older version was 2.16.
The new version has all references to Eric Lam and UMGE removed.
Neither the comments in the hex code nor the decompiled Actionscript have anything that refers to them.
Also the scripts that enumerated the active programs and sent and retrieved data with the remote servers is gone,
except for the actual game network link to the Evony.com game servers.

Even the code is a bit neater and more efficient.
At least the heavy scrutiny on them is having some pluses. lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the new version Evony 3.08. My older version was 2.16.<br />
The new version has all references to Eric Lam and UMGE removed.<br />
Neither the comments in the hex code nor the decompiled Actionscript have anything that refers to them.<br />
Also the scripts that enumerated the active programs and sent and retrieved data with the remote servers is gone,<br />
except for the actual game network link to the Evony.com game servers.</p>
<p>Even the code is a bit neater and more efficient.<br />
At least the heavy scrutiny on them is having some pluses. lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-34730</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a student studying computer games design at uni and decided to investigate Evony.com.
Just to see what some of these games are like etc. etc.
The game is actually kind of cool (found myself addicted and even spent a little money on it).
But I started to notice HUGE bandwidth use by the site as I played.
I am not the only one either, there are comments on the evony forums about this.
This is odd because all of the client info, the animations etc. are all downloaded in one big download at the start.
There is no streaming media so I began to wonder what was going on.

To cut a long story short I decided to break the law and reverse engineer Evony&#039;s client.
Not to cheat. Not to rip them off or even to use even a scrap of the code.
But just to poke about a bit and find out what was going on, maybe even offer them some ways to improve things.

Aside from the fact that the whole thing is very poorly constructed (it is really very beginner coder level stuff. Reminds me of a lot of
what the first year students produce for assignments) it contained some very interesting information.

Included with the client are 2 peices of tracking software that monitor your web use and which applications you have open while the client is running.
These do not install independently on the machine though due to the limitations of flash and do not actually damage anything.
But they harvest massive volumes of information. My firewall was blocking a lot of outgoing transmissions and it turns out that these
were the data trying to be sent out. So they know nothing about me. lol.
However there is a LOT of data coming IN over the ports the client uses. In otherwords it is downloading something into my cache for use later.
I have bandiwdth restriction which slows these types of tricks down and I completely clear my cache every couple of hours if I am heavily using the net.

I also noticed that all the varanbles etc. are named Civony still and that there are multiple references to UMGE.
Even a couple of folders are simply called UMGE, one of these folders contains one of the spyware programs.
So I can only guess at where the data would end up if I didnt have a good firewall.

There are also commented out sections in the code which contain references to UMGE and Lam himself, though low on details.

Thank you for reading this.

  Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a student studying computer games design at uni and decided to investigate Evony.com.<br />
Just to see what some of these games are like etc. etc.<br />
The game is actually kind of cool (found myself addicted and even spent a little money on it).<br />
But I started to notice HUGE bandwidth use by the site as I played.<br />
I am not the only one either, there are comments on the evony forums about this.<br />
This is odd because all of the client info, the animations etc. are all downloaded in one big download at the start.<br />
There is no streaming media so I began to wonder what was going on.</p>
<p>To cut a long story short I decided to break the law and reverse engineer Evony&#8217;s client.<br />
Not to cheat. Not to rip them off or even to use even a scrap of the code.<br />
But just to poke about a bit and find out what was going on, maybe even offer them some ways to improve things.</p>
<p>Aside from the fact that the whole thing is very poorly constructed (it is really very beginner coder level stuff. Reminds me of a lot of<br />
what the first year students produce for assignments) it contained some very interesting information.</p>
<p>Included with the client are 2 peices of tracking software that monitor your web use and which applications you have open while the client is running.<br />
These do not install independently on the machine though due to the limitations of flash and do not actually damage anything.<br />
But they harvest massive volumes of information. My firewall was blocking a lot of outgoing transmissions and it turns out that these<br />
were the data trying to be sent out. So they know nothing about me. lol.<br />
However there is a LOT of data coming IN over the ports the client uses. In otherwords it is downloading something into my cache for use later.<br />
I have bandiwdth restriction which slows these types of tricks down and I completely clear my cache every couple of hours if I am heavily using the net.</p>
<p>I also noticed that all the varanbles etc. are named Civony still and that there are multiple references to UMGE.<br />
Even a couple of folders are simply called UMGE, one of these folders contains one of the spyware programs.<br />
So I can only guess at where the data would end up if I didnt have a good firewall.</p>
<p>There are also commented out sections in the code which contain references to UMGE and Lam himself, though low on details.</p>
<p>Thank you for reading this.</p>
<p>  Lee</p>
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		<title>By: IRGRL</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-33660</link>
		<dc:creator>IRGRL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article about Evony has been published http://www.thirteen1.com/Issues/1313909/mag.php

then you can go to the forums and check out a pretty active thread about Evony as well
http://www.thirteen1.com/forum/index.php?topic=3496.0

a lot of the Evony supporters have come out to knock the article :) makes for good stuff


IRGRL
thirteen1.com 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article about Evony has been published <a href="http://www.thirteen1.com/Issues/1313909/mag.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirteen1.com/Issues/1313909/mag.php</a></p>
<p>then you can go to the forums and check out a pretty active thread about Evony as well<br />
<a href="http://www.thirteen1.com/forum/index.php?topic=3496.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirteen1.com/forum/index.php?topic=3496.0</a></p>
<p>a lot of the Evony supporters have come out to knock the article :) makes for good stuff</p>
<p>IRGRL<br />
thirteen1.com<br />
The internets best online gaming magazine</p>
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		<title>By: I Think We Need a Futile Gesture &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-33373</link>
		<dc:creator>I Think We Need a Futile Gesture &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] game and ads and spam comments. They have even been declared an aspirant to the title &#8220;Most Hated Game on the Net&#8221; by The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] game and ads and spam comments. They have even been declared an aspirant to the title &#8220;Most Hated Game on the Net&#8221; by The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bruceongames</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-33313</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruceongames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now they are threatening legal action to try and stop the criticism. Here is the letter I had from Australian solicitors: http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/25/evony-want-to-sue-me-for-telling-the-truth/
And here is an explanation of what is going on: http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/26/why-use-warren-mckeon-dickson-to-threaten-me/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now they are threatening legal action to try and stop the criticism. Here is the letter I had from Australian solicitors: <a href="http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/25/evony-want-to-sue-me-for-telling-the-truth/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/25/evony-want-to-sue-me-for-telling-the-truth/</a><br />
And here is an explanation of what is going on: <a href="http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/26/why-use-warren-mckeon-dickson-to-threaten-me/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/26/why-use-warren-mckeon-dickson-to-threaten-me/</a></p>
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		<title>By: IRGRL</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-33301</link>
		<dc:creator>IRGRL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would you be willing to talk to me, Im a reporter for a gaming magazine, if so please email me at steph@thirteen1.com 

thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would you be willing to talk to me, Im a reporter for a gaming magazine, if so please email me at <a href="mailto:steph@thirteen1.com">steph@thirteen1.com</a> </p>
<p>thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-32782</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people want to spend their own hard earned money to play this game,what has it got to do with anyone else,leave them alone to play as they wish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people want to spend their own hard earned money to play this game,what has it got to do with anyone else,leave them alone to play as they wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcron</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/07/12/condensed-evony-hatred/comment-page-1/#comment-32653</link>
		<dc:creator>Alcron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to follow up on the WoWmine claims, I started playing evony around 3 weeks ago, and my WoW account was compromised.  I&#039;ve had the account for almost 4 years with no problem and the same password.

Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to follow up on the WoWmine claims, I started playing evony around 3 weeks ago, and my WoW account was compromised.  I&#8217;ve had the account for almost 4 years with no problem and the same password.</p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
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