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		<title>[EVE] Idiot&#8217;s and Outsider&#8217;s Guide to Controversies</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2011/07/01/eve-idiots-and-outsiders-guide-to-controversies/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravious</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Dust 514]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regardless of whose right or wrong, Ms Freak definitely gets a swath of internet points for clear cutting to a ton of issues currently going on in EVE Online. Being an outsider myself, I had mostly just agreed with Tobold that the delivery of many of these items was what made it so big of [...]<p><a href="http://www.killtenrats.com/2011/07/01/eve-idiots-and-outsiders-guide-to-controversies/">[EVE] Idiot&#8217;s and Outsider&#8217;s Guide to Controversies</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.killtenrats.com">Kill Ten Rats</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of whose <a href="http://notalwaysright.com/">right or wrong</a>, Ms Freak definitely gets a swath of internet points for <a href="http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=1538210&amp;sid=735553650">clear cutting to a ton of issues</a> currently going on in EVE Online. Being an outsider myself, I had mostly just <a href="http://tobolds.blogspot.com/2011/07/my-monocle-theory.html">agreed with Tobold</a> that the delivery of many of these items was what made it so big of a list of problems. This list makes it seem a lot more real than I had suspected.</p>
<p>There are <a href="http://eve-search.com/thread/1541173/page/1">rumors and filings</a> that CCP is going through some serious growing pains regarding cash flow and management. The cash flow issue is to be expected at the very least since they are working on three MMOs, only one of which is making money. (I did find it funny that Ms Freak in the list says that CCP can do whatever they like with regard to microtransactions for Dust 514 and World of Darkness.)</p>
<p>Again as an outsider, I am not opposed to a $70 appearance item, and I do think it is a little sensational that it&#8217;s being used as the poster child for all that is wrong in EVE. Hopefully for all those not really understanding what has been going on as of late, these links might help clear the air.</p>
<p>&#8211;Ravious</p>
<p><a href="http://www.killtenrats.com/2011/07/01/eve-idiots-and-outsiders-guide-to-controversies/">[EVE] Idiot&#8217;s and Outsider&#8217;s Guide to Controversies</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.killtenrats.com">Kill Ten Rats</a></p>
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		<title>World of Darkness and Disappointment</title>
		<link>http://www.killtenrats.com/2010/09/27/world-of-darkness-and-disappointment/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravious</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was before GenCon that White Wolf (maker of table-top RPGs and upcoming MMOs, owned by EVE&#8217;s CCP) was alleged to have told a friend of a friend that some people would be happy and some people would be upset by a coming announcement. This was refuted by White Wolf, and GenCon passed with very [...]<p><a href="http://www.killtenrats.com/2010/09/27/world-of-darkness-and-disappointment/">World of Darkness and Disappointment</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.killtenrats.com">Kill Ten Rats</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was before GenCon that White Wolf (maker of table-top RPGs and upcoming MMOs, owned by EVE&#8217;s CCP) was alleged to have told a friend of a friend that some people would be happy and some people would be upset by a coming announcement. This was <a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=12601598&amp;postcount=91">refuted by White Wolf</a>, and GenCon passed with very little big news from White Wolf. Later at the Grand Masquerade, which is an officially sanctioned World of Darkness convention, White Wolf released their first teaser bit about the World of Darkness. Our blogger in arms, Ardwulf, posted <a href="http://ardwulfslair.wordpress.com/2010/09/24/world-of-darkness-online-isnt-quite/">some pretty breaking news</a> and the video of the teaser over at his site. The news hit the floor, and I realized that the alleged statement rang pretty true for me.</p>
<p>The quick news run down is that it will be launched at the earliest in 2012, and it has been in production for about 3 years so far (with 1.5 years of design/planning prior to that). The game will be called World of Darkness Online (WoDO), and it&#8217;s first iteration will be based on Vampire: the Masquerade (Masquerade). Later on, <a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=12878211&amp;postcount=114">it is hoped</a> that the other splats like werewolves and changelings will become playable characters, but for now it will be vampires and <a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=12878012&amp;postcount=109">possibly human characters</a>, such as hunters (vampire killers) or ghouls (Blood-addicted humans).</p>
<p>CCP is also making &#8220;official&#8221; some playstyles, which WoDO will contain in an interconnected manner. They are coffee house (Second-Life chatroom), theme-park (World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online), and sandbox (EVE, A Tale in the Desert). However, the game is going to have a very mature slant with little room for immaturity, some sort of self-policing, and inclusiveness to the LGBT audience. There will be combat, but it won&#8217;t be <em>the</em> core of the game. So that&#8217;s what we know so far. My thoughts after the break.</p>
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<p>My first reaction was extreme dislike at the thought of Masquerade being the vehicle rather than the more elegant successor Vampire: the Requiem (Requiem). Masquerade feels more like Blade, Underworld, or even Twilight in comparison. Yes, Twilight because Masquerade is about the power and beauty of vampires first with some alleged horror second. Mockingly, the theme of Masquerade is &#8220;trenchcoats, sunglasses, and katanas.&#8221; Requiem is about exploring the personal horror of being a vampire first with the power and beauty second. In my humble opinion, Requiem creates magnificently better tabletop stories than Masquerade (which often devolve to vampire superheroes).</p>
<p>However, I do agree with a few that Masquerade makes for a better video <em>game, </em>especially in lore and popularity. Yet, with White Wolf&#8217;s already lessened release schedules for their tabletop RPG books, this makes me more afraid that the end of the &#8220;new&#8221; World of Darkness is going down with the Mayan Apocalypse (or rise of WoDO, whichever you want). A successful MMO is a magnificent powerful beast that can push forward a whole slew of intellectual property, such as novels, posters, and even tabletop roleplaying games. Is White Wolf really going to be supporting a tabletop RPG that does not reflect its millions-of-dollars MMO? 8-Ball says &#8220;unlikely.&#8221;</p>
<p>My other disappointment was the fact that my favorite roleplaying &#8220;universe,&#8221; the anthropomorphic, animistic Werewolf (the Apocalypse or preferably the Forsaken), was not going to be included. It was far easier to recognize the extreme difficulty in presenting an excellent Vampire MMO experience and one for Werewolf when the themes often grate against one another. Vampire is about romance, subtlety, and Machiavellian power.  Werewolf is about rage. Perhaps in 2015 we might get a peek at a Werewolf expansion for WoDO.</p>
<p>With all the disappointment, I am still excited. Unlike many of the subscription theme-park MMOs (namely World of Warcraft), WoDO seems like a service I would want to subscribe to. I imagine that with 1.5 years of planning, White Wolf/CCP are doing their absolute best in trying to get as much of the tabletop RPG experience as they can to an MMO. Plus with all the great stories of power and betrayal we see coming out of EVE, I know the MMO version of Masquerade is in the best hands. I doubt we will hear much more until next year, but I will stay tuned if we do.</p>
<p>&#8211;Ravious<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;"><em>caine who was cast out</em></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.killtenrats.com/2010/09/27/world-of-darkness-and-disappointment/">World of Darkness and Disappointment</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.killtenrats.com">Kill Ten Rats</a></p>
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		<title>Funcom&#8217;s World of Darkness</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravious</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[The Secret World]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#8217;t help but feel a little disappointed in CCP/White Wolf if Funcom comes out with an onion-layered dark world MMO before the makers of EVE do.  Massively gives a peek at Funcom&#8217;s upcoming game The Secret World, which honestly seems pretty cool.  It is a story-driven, time traveling, action-oriented, classless MMO in the vein of [...]<p><a href="http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/04/07/funcoms-world-of-darkness/">Funcom&#8217;s World of Darkness</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.killtenrats.com">Kill Ten Rats</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but feel a little disappointed in CCP/White Wolf if Funcom comes out with an onion-layered dark world MMO before the makers of EVE do.  <a href="http://www.massively.com/2009/04/07/gdc09-the-veil-lifts-on-the-secret-world/">Massively</a> gives a peek at Funcom&#8217;s upcoming game The Secret World, which honestly seems pretty cool.  It is a story-driven, time traveling, action-oriented, classless MMO in the vein of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos">Call of Cthulhu</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_king_in_yellow">The King in Yellow</a>, from what I surmise.  And, the producer is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnar_T%C3%B8rnquist">Ragnar Tørnquist</a> who brought us the excellent The Longest Journey games.  It sounds very intriguing, but still I have that little pang of fanboism hurting.</p>
<p>CCP/White Wolf announced the World of Darkness MMO sometime in 2007, shortly after the two companies&#8217; &#8221;merger&#8221; (read:acquisition).  Since then we have heard nothing.  According to Massively, on the other hand, The Secret World started concepting in 2002.  I have not seen when official production began, but I do not think we will get The Secret World until 2011.  On the other hand, World of Darkness has been running like a submarine, and one can only guess if and when that game will come about.</p>
<p>I guess I should be a little thankful that this game genre is finally coming to an MMO.  I think that The Secret World is going to take a lot more from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_Darkness">Eternal Darkness: Sanity&#8217;s Requiem</a> (one of my top ten games of all time) rather than having vampire and werewolves, especially as protagonists.  Still, the two games would be like brothers, each in their own dark world.  If anything, maybe this will push CCP out of the deep to counteract any of Funcom&#8217;s marketing &#8220;firsts&#8221; and &#8220;onlys.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Ravious<br />
<span style="font-size: xx-small;"><em>lost carcosa</em></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.killtenrats.com/2009/04/07/funcoms-world-of-darkness/">Funcom&#8217;s World of Darkness</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.killtenrats.com">Kill Ten Rats</a></p>
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